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« on: April 19, 2008, 06:56:38 AM »

Akatosh bless you all. Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2008, 09:25:52 AM »

 Huh be confused I  Huh
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2008, 09:30:49 AM »

I know i was boring so i wrote this post  Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2008, 10:23:20 AM »

Well, one time I got bored and ended up reading all the Oblivion religious books out there. You know, the Annuad, the Song of Pelinal, Shezzar and the Divines, etc. I know more than I should about TES. Roll Eyes
To pass the time, let's see if you can answer this question:
What role does Akatosh play in Aethrius?
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2008, 11:25:12 AM »

I have no freakin idea Huh Huh Huh
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2008, 07:22:38 PM »

Short answer: To keep balance and equalize the flux of time. Long Answer: Akatosh was the first of the Aedra to form in The Beginning Place, and helped the seven other Aedra away from the Void. He helped make the descision to create the Mortal Plane, and the rules that surrounded it. Him being in charge, he was given the task of regulating the flux of time and keep the plane from collapsing itself from the pressures of the Void.
See, told you I know more than I should. And the long answer isn't even really the long answer. There are tons books written on this stuff, and I don't even think I read 'em all.
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2008, 03:50:17 PM »

Wow, now I know what you talk about when you say no one posts anything. I haven't seen an orange marker for days.
Anyway, just to stay on topic, I know a lot about the Gods in Oblivion and personally like to combine The Nine Divines with The Old Ways ideologies, so I like to think that Akatosh was originally just a spirit before he "formed" and actually became Akatosh. What's wierd is, Akatosh is an Aldmeri (elven) god. Doesn't that mean he's a Daedroth (of one sort or another)? And then there's the theorum that Mundus is just another Plane of Oblivion, (like the Shivering Isles) and the Nine Divines are ALL Daedric Princes sharing (in some versions contesting) rule over it!

Man, Elder Scrolls religion is just as complicated as real religion.

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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2008, 06:27:09 AM »

See Wink
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2008, 11:23:09 AM »

Yall are waaaaaaaaaaaaay too smart.
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2008, 01:41:50 PM »

My IQ is "300" Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2008, 04:48:34 PM »

I just have the capacity to remember a lot of stuff.  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2008, 09:49:02 AM »

Far, far too much stuff.
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2008, 05:19:47 PM »

There is a difference between knowing important stuff and remembering random stuff like this in oblivion. Thats may I must take you away to be enslaved to write content.
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2008, 05:04:25 PM »

 Shocked Oblivion stuff isn't "random"! I'm beginning to question your devotion to TES.

And oh, if you couldn't tell, yes I WAS being sarcastic.

I don't think anyone is actually that fanatical about a video game to worship its religion. I just find Bethesda's way of thinking very cool.
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2008, 04:11:59 PM »

Alright, I'm going to list everything I grasped from reading the ES religion books (all of them, talk about hardcore, but hey, I had nothing else to do) plus some of the online articles for shits n' giggles.

   In the beggining, there was Anu and Padomay (Being and Nothingness, or good and evil) Anu is assosciated with Aedra and Padomay is associated with Daedra. The part lying between them is called the Perfect Gray, where unaligned spirits formed and died. They died because they were unable to channel their power. Anu taught Akatosh how to control the flux of Time, so he had managed to form permanently. The cosmos were unstable and Time flowed differently in different places. After Akatosh formed and equalized the area of Time around him, other spirits began to form (Aedra and Daedra) and aligned to either Anu or Padomay. Considering this, I think that the Gray diminished, leaving today what are called 'pocket' realms or dimensions in the middle of Sithis (which I forgot to mention is the outside of the universe, or maybe Sithis is Padomay, I cannot tell, but think it is the former) between them. Eventually there were tons of spirits, but over time they lost power and died out. Lorkhan (whom I theorize is Daedra in essence, but people say he is unaligned) tricked Akatosh and the Eight divines into creating the world (Bad for them, good for us Wink).

Kynareth provided space, and all the other divines filled it along with some help from unnamed spirits. But creating a planet takes energy (what, do you think they can just pull realms out their asses?), and the Eight Divines were left weak. A meeting in the Adamantine tower brought little results, and everyone but the Eight fled to Aethrius for fear of being destroyed. Lorkhan was caught (and killed) and Akatosh removed his heart (or Divine Spark). Right before Akatosh was about to destroy it, the heart told him that it was the spirit of the realm, that it was the realm, and destroying it would make their efforts of creating the mortal plane fruitless. What I can't comprehend is that Akatosh ties the heart to an arrow, and shoots is off the top of the Adamantine Tower, and it lands in the middle of the ocean, making Vvardenfell. Why not imprison it or something?

 Moving on, after all the gods fled to Aethrius, the cosmos stabilized and then Time started. Akatosh and the Eight bound themselves to Tamriel, becoming the Earth Bones. Which brings me to a discussion of Aedra and Daedra. They tell me Daedra cannot create, but have the ability to change. Aedra cannot change, but can create. "Daedra live too long, and thus we become dull and complacent. You live too short, and thus become wonderfully sharp and inventive. Does that make sense?" - Unnamed Daedra

   Afterwards, the 16 Daedra and (Cool Aedra lived almost side by side. The Daedra are supposedly jealous of our realm because it is so large and that it is always being aded on to. So they try and corrupt it. Assholes... Anyway, the Aedra are too weak to do anything other than create relics or give blessings or miracles. Kinda sad, but at least they aren't total dicks. You know, I've got a reference that Daedra are assholes. Sheogorath and Jyggalag. 15 other princes gang up, combine powers and curse Jyggalag, turning him into Sheogorath. All for shits 'n giggles. I think that would be worse than lighting a cat on fire.

  Talos needs mentioning. He ascended in a spot at Sancre Tor, after a very difficult battle. Talos is not Aedra, as you may think. He is patron-saint of the Empire. A powerful spirit, no more.

  And I think that's all there is, really. If you want to talk about it....
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